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Well everyone....it has been four years in the making, but we were finally able to unveil our next generation RADAR, "RADAR V", at the 117th AES show in booth 235 last week. We created quite a buzz and the booth was constanly busy. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis even came buy and they were blown away by the RADAR V. They have 5 RADARs and will be upgrading as soon as possible.
RADAR V now boasts; 1) Record at 192 kHz on all 24 tracks on a single disk with the new Adrenaline(TM) Plus recording engine. 2) Triple SATA/SCSI/IDE recording buses. You choose your recording medium. The new rock-solid Storecase DE110 carrier/receivers; are becoming the new pro audio standard for removable SATA and parallel ATA drives. These carriers are now cabless for easy transfer to firewire cases. iZ now sells Enterpise Class IDE drives in these new DE110 carriers that can be plugged directly into MAC and PC based DAWs with generation 2 high speed firewire 800 ports via the HOT new DS321 single U dual bay firewire rack from Storecase; Storecase DS321 Link: http://www.storecase.com/DataSilo/ds321.asp Tested with: This unit is fully tested with Protools HD and shows significantly higher performance that the internal SATA MAC G5 drives. 3) Gigabit Ethernet, 4) Native BWAV recording, 5) "FFT" instant File Flattening Technology for quick DAW plug and play, 6) Dual Disk Recording, 7) High Speed Jog - Preference choice of maximum jog speed = play speed or 4 x play speed. Sort of like having jog and audible fast forward/rewind combined in one control. 8) High Speed backup and Export 9) Faster editing and sample rate conversion 10) New proprietary "Silent System"(TM) super quiet Power Supply System Design. We've split the power supply into two separate supplies. One for the digital components and one for the analog components. The digital supply is much smaller and has a whisper quiet cooling fan. The analog supply is now completely fanless and is a completely new iZ design utilizing the highest quality low-noise components while maintaining our standard high headroom +/- 18 volt rails. 11) New quiet case design optimized for efficient cooling and noise reduction. We've re-vamped the entire case and component mounting system to minimize acoustic noise in conjunction with the new power supply system. 12) New higher speed ATX form factor motherboard. The new ATX motherboard accomodates faster CPUs enabling faster host-dependant operations such as networking, data management and CD/DVD burningas well as on-board USB, mouse, keyboard, serial ports and PC audio connections which frees up card slots for a wider variety of proprietary iZ hardware upgrades and configurations. 13) IOMEGA REV Drive backup option. Backup an entire 24 track project in less than a minute onto a tiny 35 GB cartridge. You can also record or export BWAV projects directly to the REV drive, get a Firewire or USB 2.0 reciever and plug your session directly into protools. Plus many other new features. We also showed the long awaited Adrenaline Plus upgrade kit that will propell existing RADAR users into RADAR hyperspace with blazing performance - 192 kHz on 24 tracks, single disk. This message has been edited. Last edited by: President, |
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Barry,
Congratulations to you and all the staff at iZ for a wonderful new generation of recorder. I am sure there will be a lot of buzz on the AES convention floor about this new version of RADAR. I know I'll be looking to get an Adrenaline Card so I can stay somewhat contemporary. Glad to see this kind of innovation continuing. Barry |
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Hope you don't mind but I posted this @Gearstutz yesterday. In case you were wondering how you got all those views.
drew |
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Barry,
Does the Adrenaline Plus Upgrade give you all the goodies you listed for Radar V or only some subset of those features? thanks, -dave |
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Barry & iZ Staff:
Congratulations on a great accomplishment. I wish I were going to be there to see Radar V in person. Instead, I'll be working hard so I can buy one myself! It's great to be among the first to hear the news instead of reading about it after the fact! Cheers! Audy O |
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quote: The main thing the A+ gives you is 192k on all 24 traks. The Gig-E card is a separate upgrade and 3.30 software gives you the native BWAV recording feature. |
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This sounds great- however my question is: in order to upgrade to the new 24 tracks of 192 system- those of us with Classic Pro or whatever it is called need three things, right:
1. S-Nyquist converters 2. Adrenalin + 3. Gigabit Ethernet item This is true, correct? If so- this may be so expensive that it might make more sense to sell our current system and buy the new one- or is there an upgrade path? (there really should be)- This would be great to know for budgeting purposes- also- the real question is whether IZ has imminent plans to release a new set of converters- these are all several year-old technology- and as awesome as they sound- every other company has upgraded numerous times since then- it would be disappointing and Digi-like to go through the above-described expensive upgrade and to find out about the new super-terrific 384 converters in January. Please tell all that can be told. Thanks. |
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quote: Yes you need 1) and 2) but you don't need 3) to get 24 @ 192. The price of the Adrenaline Plus board will be $3995. quote: We have no plans to upgrade the converters. The Classic converters have been unchanged since 1996 (8 years), the Nyquist since 2000 and the S-Nyquist since 2001. These cards have become world famous for their sound and we don't want to change them. Other manufacturers may still be "tweeking" their designs. iZ tends to take longer than other manufacturers to release something but when it comes out it's done right. |
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Great news and congratulations!
Couldn't make it to AES this weekend, but I am excited to see the "V" at NAMM in January (just after it's release!) Could someone from iZ please elaborate on the following: (1) with the $4K Adrenalin + upgrade, I presume us Nyquist Radar 24 owners can expect 24 tracks at 96 kHz. Is this correct? (2) Does the Adrenalin + upgrade offer any other improvements speed-wise? I can live without Gigabit Ethernet for right now, but speeding up large edits over multiple tracks would be a priority improvement for me and might justify the expense more quickly... (3) are these features (from Barry's original post) benefits from updating a Radar 24 with the Adrenalin + card, or will they only be available with the new Radar "V" model: - High Speed Jog - High Speed backup and Export - Faster editing and sample rate conversion Thanks so much for the info- and best of luck with getting it off the ground- I'll be doing my share to spread the word, that's for sure. |
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Hi Andy,
quote: Correct. quote: Yes, you'll see a performance improvement with the Adrenalin Plus. The Adrenalin Plus scsi bus is at least 4 times as fast, and the with the newly designed dsp chip.... it's smokin! quote: The Adrenalin Plus upgrade will include all of the above benefits. Please note, even though a Radar 24 with Adrenalin Plus upgrade will include all of these great features and benefits, the Radar V will exhibit a superior performance. Regards, Cheers, N.J. McDonnell iZ Support www.izcorp.com nj@izcorp.com N.A. - 1.800.776.1356 International - 1.800.2747.2744 |
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OK, I am lazy. Will someone do the math on drive space requirements for 24tracks at 192K and 24tracks at 96K? Minutes or hours vs gigabytes? Or did I miss that somewhere. That is a critical issue here.....
George Cumbee Audio Creations Inc., Paducah, KY Classic Recording, Franklin, TN www.classicrecording.com |
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Hi George,
96k/24 bit is 16.48 Mb/minute/track 192k/24 bit is 32.96 Mb/minute/track Therefore at 24 tracks you are looking at 395.52 Mb per minute (about 1.6 Gig per song) on 96k and 791.04 Mb per minute (about 3.2 Gig per song) on 192k. Regards, Cheers, N.J. McDonnell iZ Support www.izcorp.com nj@izcorp.com N.A. - 1.800.776.1356 International - 1.800.2747.2744 |
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I forgot to include three extremely important RADAR V features in my original post, namely;
1) New proprietary "Silent System"(TM) super quiet Power Supply System Design. We've split the power supply into two separate supplies. One for the digital components and one for the analog components. This digital supply is much smaller and has a whisper quiet cooling fan. The analog supply is now completely fanless and is a completely new iZ design utilizing the highest quality low-noise components while maintaining our standard high headroom +/- 18 volt rails. 2) New quiet case design optimized for efficient cooling and noise reduction. We've re-vamped the entire case and component mounting system to minimize acoustic noise in conjunction with the new power supply system. 3) New higher speed ATX form factor motherboard. The new ATX motherboard accomodates faster CPUs enabling faster host-dependant operations such as networking, data management and CD/DVD burningas well as on-board USB, mouse, keyboard, serial ports and PC audio connections which frees up card slots for a wider variety of proprietary iZ hardware upgrades and configurations. I've gone in and edited the original post to include them. BTW, no one got the riddle; Small Bats Eat Big Snakes Willingly so we just gave all the T-shirts away at the show. The answer is the first letter of each word spells "S B E B S W" each letter of which is one letter after "R A D A R V" in the alphabet. This message has been edited. Last edited by: President, |
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Hi Barry & NJ:
I have a single bay Nyquist and most of the noise comes from the removable recording drive. Are the new drives with the Radar V significantly quieter? Glad you spent time reducing the noise level of Radar V for those without machine rooms. Cheers! Audy O |
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Audy O,
Yes, the new recording drives are Enterprize Class, 74 GB, 10,000 rpm Western Digital Raptor SATA(Serial ATA) drives and they are significantly quieter than the equivalent SCSI drive that you have in your unit. |
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SBEBS -- I saw the Small Bats thing -- who knew it was a riddle??
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quote: I told everyone that if they could decode it they's get a free T-shirt. I made the assumption that it would be interpreted as a riddle. However, in the future, I suppose I should explicitly state "This is a riddle:" |
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Hi Barry ( iZ President )
Will there be a Level purchase stage with the new RadarV? At present you have Radar project D, project, Classic, Nyquist and so on, will this category purchase stage be the same for RadarV ? I am not selling albums like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Thanks Paultrent4 |
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Paul,
Yes, the model lines will be; RADAR 24 Line: 1) RADAR 24 Project-D: Stripped down, no Session Controller/Meter Bridge, Digital Only 2) RADAR 24 Project: Above with Classic analog I/O 3) RADAR 24 Classic: Above removable SCSI drive, Session Controller/Meter Bridge RADAR V Line: 1) RADAR V Digital: 3 Bay with two SATA/PATA dual bus receivers, 5 x DVD-RAM combo(now supports DVD+R as well as DVD-R) and AES 24 channel digital I/O. 2) RADAR V Classic: Above but with AES 24 channel digital I/O replaced by Classic cards. 3) RADAR V Nyquist: Above but with Nyquist 4) RADAR V S-Nyquist: Above but with S-Nyquist |
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